If you think that you have an occasional problem with "gas," try to realize what a huge problem it is for old Suzie Q. If bloat is spotted early, the cow should be taken off pasture and given proprietary anti-bloat or anti-foaming agents by mouth. For simple gas bloat, which is also known as feedlot bloat or dry bloat, you can try using bicarbonate of soda (a.k.a. After a few days of not getting better I treated him for coccidiosis and gave him penicillin shots for 5 days. There should be access to fresh-water while offering baking soda, or any other salts. hello, i've been reading your post on bloat. The baking soda dosage for the goats suffering from bloat is one tablespoon mixed with warm water. after reading a lot I gave them some baking soda for gas, then later gave one Doe some pepto bismol for upset stomach. Does he have a shelter to go in? and wheezing, laying down but can stand, large belly. Thank you for the advice. Thanks Melissa, Maxie Ball - for starters, take your buck's temperature. I decided I’d just treat her for bloat. If the goat is about to die, puncturing the rumen with trocar and cannula is the only option left. :D, Hello Ashley,Have you given your doe C&D Antitoxin? Milk replacer is the primary issue of the bloat in the baby goats. After giving him the baking soda, walking him, and massaging his tummy and nothing working I finally had to tube him. 745Does goat involve only the left side of a goat or can it involve both sides making the goat look like a barrel? oz. Young Cattle, Sheep, and Goats: 6 fl. Website update, and things going on at the ranch. He needs more grass, browse and grain. Waste milk can be fed to lambs successfully, so long as the milk is fortified with fat or oil. Treatment Option Two. When bloated, your goat may show signs of pain such as teeth grinding, pawing, moaning, resting their head against a fence, etc. Keep an eye on her though incase she stops eating and starts acting weird. The only thing I could think of was bloat. Also, she appears to be constipated what can I do for that? He has been burping sometimes when I feed him crackers - that is why I think he might have bloat. For frothy bloat, drenching with poloxalene or mineral oil (100-200 cc) may help. I was curious what you were thinking. Contraindications. Bloat Treatment Indications. What is his temperature? - if you know how to tube a goat, you can tube them and let the air out. oz. Treatment of Bloat in Baby Goats A broad-spectrum antibiotic administer orally A mixture of activated charcoal and vegetable oil via stomach tube … . We are trying to cure it but no luck! If the goat remains unable to belch then administer one tablespoon of Tide laundry powder (without bleach) mixed with 60ml of water via stomach tube. .Suriyah, I have 2 goats and we lost a kid before we knew ANYTHING. Goat Bloat - Treating One of Our Milking Does. It was sad espailly since we only had him for 2 weeks! Determine the cause of the frothy bloat and address it. A small amount of approximately 2-3 ounces can help to break down the tiny bubbles and discharges the gases usually. She was out to browse last night and hope she didn't get into something poisonous. I feed them hay and scrap vegetables from the house, but not an excessive amount. baking soda.) The dosage is normally on the bottle. Or you can use straight vegetable cooking oil. Treatment: Stop the goat from eating any more. Some surgical procedures like a small incision may help to remove the gases from the stomach. One couple of spoons of milk of magnesia or the mineral oil and massage the rumen backwards forward will help to lower the pH of the rumen and stimulate the gut. Offer a tablespoon of sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) for adult goats and a teaspoon for baby goats mixed with water. Bloat - Goats & Health - GOATWORLD.COM. I noticed his poo isn't as pebble-y - that some of it is chunky, like a bunch of pebble poo all stuck in a lump. Yes, you can get another male goat to raise him with. Chamomile Essential oil for Bloating If they get into something they are not used to eating, their gut can get off and enterotoxemia is very likely. Took away her grain, hay only now. If it is much higher or lower than that I would be concerned. Then we massaged her distended side and let her rumen work its magic. Get some more bloat treatment down him along with some baking soda. Thus, bloated. The oldes doe has a larg belly but continues too eat. An open excess to the grains may also cause the frothy bloat. Is there anything else I should be doing??? OK Thanks and what type of Alfalfa hay should i feed him and how much? The development of bloat in baby goats occurs due to abnormal gastrointestinal processes specifically in the kid’s abomasums due to the reduction in the pH of the stomach. i have a 6 month old nubian and his belly is really big!my goat looks bloated... he has been at my house for 3 days now, he gets like 1/4 scoop of 12% sweet feed, and a handful of hay a day. If he starts acting off I would give him some C&D Antitoxin as well.It sounds like your doe is just fine :). Bloat happens due to several factors including overfeeding. You doe should be looking better within a few hours. The following home remedy will work effectively in the goats. Thanks for the info, Iv'e got a few more questions i hope you can help me with we are new to this, he is the only goat we have have never had goats before so not quite sure what we are doing. For treatment, there are a few ways to go. Treating her with Maalox and Thiamine shots from the Vet. Avoid grazing lucerne when wilted after hot, windy dry days. I guess I could give him an enema but not sure if it would help. I do give him Diamatmus earth for worming but did not worm him with regular worming products. It is best to prevent bloat to reduce cattle deaths or unwanted side effects. long-necked bottle. However, the other type of bloat i.e. My first experience with bloat happened the very first morning that I had sheep. I thought it might be bloat after reading about bloat so I have him the formula of mineral oil and baking soda yesterday. I'm getting ready to treat my goat for bloat but realize I only have olive oil in my cupboard. Won't hurt her, and if she did get poisoned it will help.Also, if you can get her some C&D Antitoxin that would be wonderful.Suriyah, Hello I have two Does, yesterday I came home and only one was foaming at the mouth and crying, she was standing so I started reading and saw info on bloating. Read information about goats and bloat so you recognize the condition if it occurs in your herd. If the goat becomes unable to expel these gases out, the rumen starts expending due to the pressure exertion by the gases. I attempted to do a fecal and could not see anything since the sample was not good. Just treated him with durvet bloat treatment using a tube down the throat. Bloat is usually caused by goats either eating too much grain (that they are not used to) or getting out on new lush green pasture. I gave him B12 shot and electrolytes and he starting eating and drinking but now he is bloated. Nope, alfalfa is just fine for bucks. (1) There are also commercial anti-bloating medications available. If the goat can swallow and you are very careful to give small swallows at a time with a drenching gun, vegetable or peanut oil will help your goat out immensely. Otherwise, you can order the C&D Antitoxin online at places like Jeffers Livestock. This position will help to clear the oesophagus and rumen that will help to expel the gas and relieves the goat. Thank you so much for all your help.. Her belly does not look bloated or that bad. The survival of the goats depends on the immediate base treatment. He doesn't act like he is in any pain, but when I thump his side he sounds like a drum. We already drenched her, and she is able to swallow, but she is very stiff with head thrown back. She is either probably pregnant and her stomach is wide from that, or she is just a fat goat. We have given him some mineral oil for several days with a syringe. It was weird not to have any warning, except I realize now she was off her food just a little on the stand. Some gas came out from the mouth and also from the rear. give her a 10cc shot right now. We have experienced goats getting bloat, and have treated them all successfully. Mix it with water, about 1/2 box to 32 oz (1 quart) water. Vegetable oil, administered as water or by injecting it into the rumen, helps disperse the Frothy and allow the gas to escape. Goat Polio and Listeriosis have the same symptoms. ( purna Noble Goat Medicated ).. we started him on that only 1/2 cup he bloated right after eating didn't think anything of it until today he is still bloated looking, but is still eating,drinking and going to the bathroom normally. One of the does keeps squatting like she needs to pee but nothing happens most times. Goats will do better if they have a goat friend.He needs to be wormed also, and given a coccidiosis treatment - http://goodgoats.blogspot.com/2013/03/preventing-coccidiosis.html, Yes he has shelter, and we've wormed him and i had been reading up on the coccidiosis treatments.No he is the only goat we've got we are out there in the pen several times a day and my son even goes out late at night to check on him.. hi! I can feel their hip and spine bones and there isn't an appearance of fat anyplace but their girth. I would highly suggest you go read this article - http://www.tennesseemeatgoats.com/articles2/listeriosis.html. 12/30/01. This one is on how to treat bloat. How to use Oregano Essential oil for Bloating. Amy - sometimes Tractor Supply or different feed stores will carry it. I can have someone hold him - but how do you get that 160 pound'r with lovely horns to drink it? Watch out for fresh growth following rains. im trying to take care of him but i dont know that much. Goat Polio is treated with Thiamine, and Listeriosis is treated with high doses of Penicillin. The goats will take the baking soda when needed and avoid it when they don’t want it. Bloating can also be helped by giving the goat vegetable oil. Also, if you have bloat release I would start her on some of that now also. I am pretty sure that he does not have worms since I wormed him for everything. Growing babies really need an alfalfa type of hay. - I always give C&D ANTITOXIN. If he is bloated, his stomach will be big.Has he been wormed recently? But, if you do not see any signs of improvement, I would try it again in an hour along with a 1/4 to 1/3 cup vegetable oil drench. Our nubian goat, Luna, is prone to bloating. his poop is very runny and green. Is he still eating? Adult Cattle: 12 fl. You can't get the cd antitoxin anywhere! hi is bicarbonate of soda the same as baking soda, I have a 8 month old buckling that has had diarrhea, unwilling to eat, drink, and is sluggish for about a 2 weeks. I would guess that she got Enterotoxemia. It is better to stop the goats from eating more feed to prevent bloat. Is it acceptable to immediately give him some water down his throat? She most likely does not have bloat. She died if Enterotoxemia.Always have CD Antitoxin on hand. The treatment against bloat in baby kids is not possible due to rapid death. So we've gotten him better and now at a stand still because we've leaned that they are heard animals and being that we have bottle feed and had a lot of human contact he is like a big baby and we can't seem to find him a home where people just raise them as pets, So we were wondering being that we are not wanting to breed can we just get another male goat to raise with him.. OR do you know of any people in the Georgia Area that raises them as pets that would take him.. in need of help!!!! Do not use concurrently with mineral oil or other drugs. Although some people recommend putting a stomach tube into a goat to administer the oil, there is no benefit to doing this, and it is in fact much more dangerous than simply drenching a goat … DO NOT drench mineral oil without a stomach tube, or it will end up in the lungs. I have two does who started acting sick yesterday. The incision location is four fingers behind the bottom of the left side ribs. The goats should have free access to the baking soda as the goats are very smart in consuming the baking soda. He needs hay. I'm only 13 - I don't really know how to treat this and I've never done it before... what do you recomend?AshleyPS I like your site A LOT!!! Massaging the left side of the goat will help to expel some gases. i dont know whats up with him i mean he is my little buddy lol... i dont want anything to happen to him. If you want, you can email me privately at sf@goodgoats.net or give us a call at 918-598-4007... maybe I can help out more.Hope she gets well soon,Suriyah, Dear Suriyah,I have a similar situation to Ashley's, we are fairly new to goat biz ut are learning. Any information would help. I have an 8 year old Alpine down with paralysis on the right hind quarter. He is drinking and urinating. These act by breaking down the foam in the rumen. You can also use a turkey baster. I've got a goat suffering from bloat going on 4 days now. Mineral oil is not digestible, and helps speed the grain on it’s way, but does not add to the digestive load. we just got a baby goat he had been hurt by the male goat and we've taking him to the vet and nursed him back to health he's about 9 weeks old. There are several options to treat bloat naturally. but she was not tight like bloat speaks of though she did get diarah from it i tried everything but i still lost her her tummy was soft but she was screaming in pain by the time i got home and she had snot running out her nose then she was gone. Foaming at the mouth ad crying all night. If he starts to act off, you can give him a little baking soda and oil just to be safe.Thanks,Suriyah918-598-4007. The goat will get by using milk of magnesia within one of administration. Is this normal for bloat systems or is it just the left side? Goats are fairly susceptible to bloat, which is the accumulation of gas in the rumen. What do you suggest? yesterday morning I noticed he was suffering from diarrhea later that day he started to bloat up. Some farmers will have dose guns prepared with vegetable oil to dose any goats showing any signs of bloating. The goat may still be up and able to walk, albeit not to willingly, or, down on its side in obvious discomfort. i had a doe pass away from what i thought was bloat after she raided my mother in laws chicken lot and ate corn. The baking soda will help to maintain the pH of the rumen and the micro-organism resides in the stomach will have a stable level of acidity. I have given him a tablespoon of baking soda and also about 4 oz of canola oil (it's all I had). It was better than doing nothing. Her left side doesnt seem to be much bigger. He stands when you enter the pen, but still with his tail up and abdominal spasms. Administer some probiotics to refresh the flora of the rumen. 1/3 cup Peanut Oil. It is a very inexpensive drug that can save a goats life in that situation. One simple home remedy for the bloat is placing the goat at a 45-degree angle with the front portion a bit higher as compared to the rear part. ?thanks your site is great, Hello - sounds like you treated him great for the bloat. However, severe bloat can exert pressure on the abdomen that can stop the heart and lungs from working properly. They seems a bit better but I am not for sure. Thanks Melissa. The disadvantage of the trocar and cannula is that it may permit the dirt to go inside into the rumen. Common traditional treatments include mineral oil to try to settle the foam, but your veterinarian will have much more effective surfactants that will decrease the foam and allow your goat to belch away the problem. Baking soda is a handy addition to the diet of the goat. Hi i just came across ur site looking for help with my male pygmy goat the passed two days i noticed he is pretty lethargic not wanting to get up much and he is squeezing his hind end like he has to poop i did see him poop so i dont think its a blockage of any kind do u think this could be bloat? Thanks! Walking the goat and massaging the flank may be of value. The frothy bloat is most critical as it produces ting bubbles within the rumen, and if goat becomes unable to expel them out it may cause the death of the goats. I once lost a kid to it before I knew about it.I guess it's time to do a post on Enterotoxemia. Kyle L. - thank you for the comment. She also looks a little bloated. Homemade vegetable oil is easy to make and inexpensive, so having this stored is important. Has had bad appetite and foaming at the mouth. The goat may kick and bite the abdominal region, Massaging the upper left side of the goat, Pat or massage the rumen section to release the gas. If not, you need to give her more baking soda and oil. Thanks in advance! I have read penicillin? Any suggestions? - along with bloat, some goats will also get diarrhea. is this bloat and what should we do?? Ksenia from Flying G Farm, Ksenia, I am sorry to hear about your doe. If not, please do. I hope she is better by now. 6-8 cups of grain is way too much for a wether. Sounds like you are feeding him way too much. He's always had a fat belly in the month I've had him, but he didn't eat all his goat feed yesterday for the first time. First time goat owner. Free Gas Bloat develops when there is any blockage or obstruction in the oesophagus. Sodium bicarbonate (baking soda) mixed in water is the common treatment for bloat, as it helps to neutralize acid. Please help. Home remedy for Bloat (WORKS FAST) 1/3 cup Vegetable Oil. As far as the diarrhea goes, did he get into some kind of new feed or pasture? He has had a big tummy for about 2 years. He is not foaming at the mouth however in the last hour or so he has started grinding his teeth so I know he's in more pain. I have a billy goat that I feel has bloat or is constipated. because iv'e been reading that it can cause urine problems. Vegetable oil is digestible, and only adds to the digestive load. I thought I would post a few small articles that have helped people in the past. Again, this is just our experience. Not eating, barely drinking. he is a goat tying goat,he is 6 months old, and when i take him out he grazes most of the time while i tie him. The rumen of the goat produces a lot of gases, like carbon dioxide and methane, by fermentation of the food. The oil breaks the surface tension of bloat-causing bubbles trapped in the rumen. Sounds like you are on the right course, but I would start her on injections of Penicillin as well. Just seeing this blog post, I've been up all night with my half grown boar billy. All wethers do is eat, they don't produce anything and therefore do not require that much high quality feed. Her symptoms were: coughing up green (feed?) also our doe seems to have over ate on the hay and is stuffed full i say stuffed full because she is not airy on one side she is just solid on both sides. How Does Baking Soda Help? But, you can also feed him a grass hay. The oil breaks up the smaller bubbles of gas, allowing one larger bubble (that can be passed) to form. Neither act sick in any way and haven't eaten more than 2oz grain a day for two years. she is energetic and still eating and drinking should i do anything for her? The Bloated Goat. So what can you do to reduce it and make the bloating go away? I would give him Pepto bismal (or Kao Pectate) to help harden his stools and soothe his tummy. If your lamb is in distress you can also call a vet or better yet, take the lamb to a vet. Please log in again. Ingredients: Vegetable Oil, polyglycerol oleate, polyethylene glycol monooleate, butylated hydroxyanisole, butylated hydroxytoluene, citric acid, ethoxyquin, propylene glycol and propyl gallate. Fill a 12 oz. We currently have a young doe who kidded several weeks ago, and she has a severe case of bloat. I originally thought it was worms because two other bucklings had diarrhea the same time and I wormed them and they got better. We had a mom with quads, one had too severe birth defects to live, and another lived to about 2 months and then died suddenly, which we think may have been due to bloat. Bloat ; Goat dose: Oral Give 60-90 cc and massage goats left side (rumen) until the goat begins to burp. Tonight we gave him some probiotics and an enema. The login page will open in a new tab. If not. In case of bloat and acidosis from grain overload, I use Mineral oil. I've seen small amount of diarrhea ooze out. It is what has saved a few goats' lives. Of course, if you feel your goat is getting worse, call a vet immediately! There are many brands of bloat treatment for goats and cattle. With it being green that is what I would assume. The bloat if untreated, can cause the death of the goat in lesser than 24 hours. But in cases that are not really serious or urgent, an effective treatment for Frothy bloat is to use vegetable oil. Does he have any signs of pneumonia or a respiratory problem?Melissa - as long as your baby boy is eating, drinking and acting completely normal - then no, he is most likely not bloated. After logging in you can close it and return to this page. You can let it run it's course, just make sure the goat is staying hydrated and offer then electrolytes a few times a day. If not, Urinary Calculi may be a concern. Yes, bicarbonate of soda is the same as baking soda. I give her probiotics good hay good feed????? Take a few drops of the oil and start massaging it around your belly button. He is a little bloated now. If you do not have experience with a stomach tube, do not attempt this or call your vet for help and assistance. Is he bloated or is he overweight? we have been reading up on how to care for him what foods and what not, we had been giving him sweet feed and went to tractor supply and purchased some got feed. :( One of our does has Bloat RIGHT NOW! Only do that if you know how to tube a goat, safely! If you think he is bloated just take a syringe, mix up some baking soda and oil, and squirt it down his throat. Bloat is when air is trapped in the goats gut, NOT the lungs. This blockage may be due to grains, carrots, or apple. Any advide at all would be helpful!Thanks, Grace, Hello Grace,Yes, vegetable oil will work just as well. With a kid, I would give about 3-5 cc. Keeping vegetable oil on hand for an emergency goat bloating is a good idea. I have a goat whose sides stick out pretty far. Get a box of baking soda (bicarbonate of soda). Here’s what you’ll need: A standard, small box of baking soda A quart of water or vegetable oil - if I do not have the above, give about 1/2 cup of Oil (mineral, corn, etc), add a couple of big spoonfuls of Baking Soda to the Oil, and drench it down the goat's throat with a syringe (withOUT a needle). The goat gets rid of these gases through belching. Also, get some C&D Antitoxin and give him an oral and injectable dose ASAP. His breathing is kind of rapid. I have a few more questions that i hope you can help with Like i stated before we rescued this goat he's about 8 or 9 weeks old and he is the only goat we have, not quite goat ppl but couldn't let him die. He eats, plays with my other goats, and acts completely normal. It is a water soluble, and this if it is not needed in the gut, the goat will pee it out. Are they possible just fat? Thank you, Hello. You use both if the bloat is from eating too much grain. I thought they had bloat, but both sides are swollen, not just the left. I would suggest wethering (neutering) them both so they don't get stinky when they grow up. If I have a question we have recently rescued a baby goat been busy trying to get him back better we are not goat people but could not just see this little fella die the owner really didn't care one way or the other. She past a lot of dark stringy stool, but no yellow stool.She still looks bloated. Im doing something wrong.I only have three weeks left. ... We filled a drencher with about ⅓ cup of olive oil mixed with some stevia (to make it more palatable) and fed it to Mayday. A broad-spectrum antibiotic administer orally. I did the same for her. I'm sure i'll be back with more questions.. so glad i came across your blog.. Will that work? Any info would help!!! Any suggestions on my next step? For frothy bloat, mineral oil or poloxalene (100-200ml) works effectively. You can give it every few hours until the goat recovers. For several days, he has stood away from our other goats, will not eat, and just stands around. I've also been massaging him throughout the night getting burps here and there also lots of firm pellets. kinda like a homemade remedy. ?Thank you MK. Because mineral oil is tasteless, the goat may not know to swallow and the mineral oil could get into thier lungs. Baking soda should be given free choice to your goats to help prevent bloating. Hi,Just had a doe kid 2 days ago, triplets a little early I thnk.Littlest one weighed 2lbs 10 ozwas weak and didn't want to stand or nurse, I fed with syringe every 2 hours, by morning she was up and would nurse on her own. Does he have a friend? An aid in the treatment of frothy bloat in ruminants and as a fecal softener. With more production of gases as compare to expel of the gases, then the left side of the abdomen becomes distended, and this leads to the difficulty in breathing. I have a 5 month old fair goat that just stopped eating and drinking for 2 days. Baking soda is handy in digestive problems and to avoid bloat. Hello,Sorry to hear about your doe! The death occurs due to pressure exerted by the extended rumen on heart and lungs, leading to circulatory or respiratory distress. He also has been eating a small amount of ear corn (that's new) Let me know what you think. We have him in a 12x12 pen and I let him out to graze we feed him 1/2 cup grain like 3 times a day plus we are still giving him milk twice a day.. not sure if this is right we kinda going with it.. Any info would help. Thanks for any help you can offer.Jared. Could he have bloat? Soluble leaf proteins, saponins, and hemicelluloses are believed to be the primary foaming agents and to for… This morning she looked bloated, thought she was constipated so gave her enema. Could it be bloat? She seems to be finicky. If she can stay around long enough, I might be able to drive out (hour drive) to get the C+D Anti-toxin. Introduction of creep feed may also cause this problem in them. Also, is he urinating? In bloat, the left side of the goat becomes extended due to gases; however, if the extension is on both sides, then nothing to worry about as an extension of both sides is showing no symptoms of distress. If you think she may have gotten into something poisonous, I would suggest you give her some charcoal. Do this slowly and carefully so you do not get it down the goat's windpipe. Another natural treatment for bloat is to give the goat a stomach … I'm afraid she might have bloat. But, I have been raising goats for 10 years and have NEVER once killed a goat by treating them this way for bloat, and I have saved their lives.Besides, I have NEVER ever heard of puncturing the goats LUNG to deal with bloat. Yesterday in the afternoon we noticed him wimpering in the corner, frequently lying down, belly not bigger than normal, with his tail up and renching, movements of his belly like spasms. What in the world was wrong with her?! Treatments for Gas Bloat (Dry Bloat, Feedlot Bloat) Option One: Liquid Treatment This treatment is for an animal able to stand. However, the following remedy is useful for the baby goats bloat. My other doe started doing the same thing up all night crying. Offering your goat baking soda on a daily basis can help balance the pH levels in the rumen (similar to how heartburn relief works in humans). Every time I think his stomach has gone down some it seems to fill up within minutes. Administration of peanut or vegetable oil will help to relieve the bloat. Other than that sounds like you are doing great. I would try cutting back on the grain, giving him more hay and seeing how things work out. He needs to get over the bloat before he will eat anything. I gave my Pygmy goat baking soda and rubbed her belly and patted it. I suggest pouring it down the tube and giving about a half a large glass. For goats that are still able to walk, you will need to drench a quarter of a pint of mineral oil or cooking oil down the goat's throat and then exercise the goat (through walking) and massaging of the sides.